Reformed Questions: help

Q: Seeking clarity. 

 A young man was previously presented the “reformed” gospel at an early age. He then observed his own family and concluded there was nothing godly in him nor his family. He then concluded he must not be loved by God, they must not be “elect”. Fortunately he later learned the truth.

🤔 I’ve spent a lot of time and years studying and watching.  Even heard J Mac, Sproul, White, and others explain things to those seeking questions.

May God forgive me if I’m mistaken but I just cant grasp Calvanism view of predestination and reformed views. Can you help me  understand, and the issues here.


A: I see the reformed view as Biblical.

There is nothing wrong with seeking to grasp certian teachings of Scripture. Many have a hard time understanding the Trinity. It doesnt make it wrong, it makes us have to deep dive into doctrines of Scripture to find answers. 

It took me a while to grasp a couple points in TULIP. I grew up thinking whosoever, taking it at face value, but that was from my English understanding of a basic word, not Scriptures overall teaching. I later in mid 20s was understanding election held to it losely, but it didnt seem right from my understanding, so i said this diesnt seem Biblical. What was wrong, the Bible or my assumptions? It was about 10 yrs later that I studied the Bible and compared it with what preachers taught, and the doctrine became much clearer. Scripture was right and I was finally educated. Know that I was skeptical of 5 point calvanism and thought that teaching might be heresy or a cult, but i agreed with 3 points, and now about 10 yrs later, this year in fact, I understand Irrisistable Grace of the Holy Spirit. It isnt against our will nor at the 1st time we hear the gospel, but in God's timing. Scripture always has the answer but we sometimes tend to misunderstand. I think that as long as we co ti ually seek clarity on a matter, are open to God changing our mind through educating us in Scripture, that even if it takes 10 or 20 years, God will eventually reveal to us what is true. But we cannot close the door on something just because we cant comprehend it "right now". We grow in the faith and in Scriptures. We go from milk to solids to meat. As long as we genuinely seek truth, God will in time reveal it to us. 

This provides clarification in its links on these matters.
  >Answers the typical sovereignty & freewill faq too
 > Jmac answers this question on a weekly basis, in pretty much every Q& A session, has done sermons on it, and recently gave a good clarification. All of which are in the above noted links.


To the points of the original above questions:

The only godly thing in people, is the Holy Spirit, if one is saved.  There is nothing good in mankind, due to the fall. So.... but that doesnt mean one cant be saved and struggling with sin while in the life-long sanctification process. Theyll overcome and conquer it if they are seeking to live righteously. The saved are not perfect while in this sin stained body. God working in us, to grow us in holiness and then, at death, perfect us.

People lack understanding because
A. They dont read the Scriptures.
B. Assume things based on faulty "fallen" perceptions, not facts. God revealed everything in Scripture, we just gotta deep dive it.

1. But just because someone sees sinful people behave "like those with the sin nature" do, doesnt mean they are not saved.
>It also could be that young mans skewed perception on what a Christian is.

2. Just because some claim to be a believer, doesnt mean they are.
>But those who are... they dont follow people, they worship and follow 👉God.

3. People can still be saved before they die*. 

>These (in this story) are not all dead yet, and... that young man isnt God; to know a) their end, b) if theyre not in the Book of Life.

But first make sure you are saved, and then ask God to reveal the treasures within Scripture to you so you can live a diligent God glorifying life that honors him. 

I believe that if you are reading this, that God did send you here. For either Salvation matters (examining yourself, assurance, or to get saved) or to have you dig deeper in Scripture (to reveal these specific matters, remind you to stay teachable, and to remind you to be reading the Bible daily). 

God bless


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